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It’s always amazing to see steam engines out and running

For me, the most exciting new builds are the ones representing the LNER constituents, as that's an area of preservation that's a little short changed. The G5, F5, GCR No. 567 would not only be a great sight, but a good boost for railways with limited rolling stock (although I wouldn't mind seeing them on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway as visitors). The LNWR George V project is also exciting, simply becuase there are no 20th century LNWR express locos preserved, and to see one return, potentially running on the main line no less, would be spectacular.

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we must see a new build e2

Terrific video, Chris! Thanks for posting

That's what Whiff is based on

How long until the IMLEC from last year?

I’d personally love to see a replica rake of LNER coronation coaches, or the Silver Jubilee articulateds.

There are so many unique engines that would have the effects on people as Mr. Lewin described it. Another thing what probably definitely also plays into it is the choice of livery. For my personal liking heritage railways, at least SG ones seemingly currently have this weird trend to paint the majority of their fleet in late BR liveries, even the pre grouping machines. Which makes the T3 on the Swanage an even more pleasant sight to see. The thing also is how long till running on the mainline has to come to a halt completely with trains getting faster and timetables getting more and more filled up.

We got GTA 6 before the Doncaster P2 newbuild

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Another Great Gauge The Issue Episode Chris. Keep up the good work! 😄👍🏻 I have always put some pennies in to help these new build project! I think these new build projects are fantastic as they give new generation the opportunity to see them in action then watching them in archive video! But I think, sadly due to a lot of issues that many Heritage railways are facing like vandalism, access by public transport, shortage of staff and supply of Coal & Fuel. Some of the New Build Projects like railways extension most likely have been put to one side as nice things to have but not as important than keeping the trains going! I wish all the New Build Projects the best of luck and hope their New Build gets Finished! 😁👍🏻

If 1401 was scrapped then which of the survivors is wearing the number plates

Were you an extra in the new episode of house of the dragon? Swear I just saw you in the throne room

I’ve seen this loco in person and Barrow Hill, and it’s a lovely little loco. The cab paint is crumbling and it might need a good clean, but it’s still nice. I’m somewhat slightly inclined to prefer the Midland Spinner, but 158A is none the less a solid survivor.

Well, seeing as us Americans currently are building a PRR T1 duplex to prove mallard isn’t the fastest, I’d say that yeah, we are certainly going to see at least one or two big engines in the current climate, and and handful of smaller ones. So long as people keep donating to the builders of said engines/projects.

Imagine if her voice actress Jules de Jongh would’ve seen this

To me, coaching stock is so important - I'd like to see more late Victorian three-axle slam door corridorless compartment stock. They have e wonderful smell of old wood, jute cloth and linseed oil with the occasional waft of oily steel. It's a journey not just along the railway but also into the past.

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I would rather see small new builds like a GWR Metro tank or an Isle Of Wight/Midland South Western Junction Beyer Peacock; Something that can visit any preserved railway, large or small.

I think the issue with using real trains on set is the risk of damaging them. Also, you have to take in consideration that the mocie studio might need an engine that just... doesnt exist. One that was scrapped or broken up decades ago. And you also have movies with trains going fast enough that the real ones could get damaged. IMO studio built trains are a great way to still habe full scale models without rhe risk of damage or derailment to the real ones

This reminds me of how people got pissed because micheal Bay didn't use actual Japanese carriers for his Pearl Harbor (i think). Even though we kinda sank them all... Also, IMO, the Lone Ranger train scenes were the best in the film because of the goofiness.

I've said this before but I'll say it again: GTi is always top quality, thoughtful and topical content.

I think some of the new build tank engines should also have optional tenders built so they can work on the mainlines

Honestly as someone who is from Denmark, Im just baffled at the fact that the UK not only has massive numbers of steam engines in preservation to begin with, but is making new stuff too. We only have 2 new builds in all of Denmark, one of which is a replica of an 1846 Sharps engine that we got assistance from the British for, and the other is a miniature gauge steamer built in Britain at Exmoor and purhased by a safari park as a ride. We do have a decent share of steam locomotives though but most is in inoperable condition right now, and the vast majority are smaller tank engines, 0-6-0's, 2-6-0's, 2-6-2's and so on. Only a few large mainline locomotives exist beyond that of a 4-4-0 or 2-6-0, and they're almost all owned by the national museum who either don't care (and even scrapped a 4-6-0 that volunteers were restoring in 2017), or inoperable, or stuck in Peterborough. At least we managed to repatriate S class 740 from Nene Valley in the 90's. Though we also face some of the same issues! Mainline running is under threat, not so much due to regulation but due to practicality. Specifcially from the rollout of ERTMS on the national network nationwide by 2033. A locomotive would need to be fitted with ETCS to even operate on the lines, and even the wealthiest societies don't have the money to retrofit that kind of advanced equipment. That is unless a cheaper alternative solution is developed. The government did put small funding aside for it but Ive heard no results as of yet. Even then many hertiage societies don't have their own rail lines and operate on either the National network, or branch lines owned by the regional governments. But we've already seen 2 societies become landlocked. One because of ERTMS rollout reaching the station they were stationed at, and the other because the track access to their yard was literally removed by our equivalent of Network Rail as part of the preporatory line overhaul ahead of electrification and ERTMS. Combine all of this with dwindling volunteer bases too, especially at smaller societies where they no longer have the manpower or money to restore locomotives or even run trains, heck one society, Sydjyllands Veterantog based in Lunderskov, literally dismembered not that long ago and no longer operate trains. It really seems like now, railway heritage is hanging on by a thread.

Surprised no mention of the 47XX and the loss of Thornbury Castle.

With the coaching stock I believe the old stuff can claim grandfather rights with regards to some rules if you built brand new they would have to conform to modern standards. For example CET tanked toilets and different colored doors for partial sighted people.

I feel the 5 at project is worth reviving.Future generations won't care if its a black 5 or a Marsh Atlantic .The age of Hauntology will soon fade, if there is something viable about steam traction then surely this will be an innovative and a technologically challenging project

You made a very good point with coaching stock for mainline tours. While I'm sure the slam doors of the Mk1 can be equipped with an automatic door lock system they are not going to last forever. And with aircon Mk2 or 3 stock the tours will lose a lot of their appeal, not only because for the wrong look, but also because the enthusiasts can't stick their heads out anymore. Eventually there will maybe be a ban on windows that open far enough to stick heads out. But then new build replicas of old stock is an option, like Gresley Teaks out of steel, with ventilators that open far enough to enjoy the sounds and hold a camera out, but no working drop windows in the doors and instead door cranks on the inside, equipped with automatic locking and door close detection. Modern braking system and a composite brake with disabled access and compartment. As for the locomotives, the most useful new builds will be those in the 3/4MT range because they offer economic use while powerful enough for most heritage railways. As nice as it would be to see a Y6 or Bloomer finished, they are of limited use as they can't pull more than 3-4 coaches on their own on many preserved lines. Large engines like the P2, Clan and Patriot are more aimed to the mainline and galas as they are to costly to run on your normal service trains on the heritage line.

I think one potential thing that will need to be considered is the issue of fuel and potentially environmental regulations - one advantage of new build steam is that one could, potentially, build them to run efficiently on things that isn't the increasingly hard to obtain high quality lump coal that the originals were designed around (e.g. ovoids or dare I say fuel oil).

I don't think the locos reusing parts from others qualify as "new build". Unless it has at least a new boiler, it's merely extending the life of older kit.

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I have been supporting Societies such as Spirit of Sandringham with a hat Betton Grange with a Mug on my Birthday last year Prince of Wales with a Bottle from Christmas And 82045 with another Mug and Pin Badge So yeah I’ll likely be doing with with a bunch of groups And best of luck to all Locomotive Societies out there

I do think new build will be need more than ever now as engine we all ready got get older and harder to look after new engine could help to take strain off older engine and give us to try out new technology and idears to make newer and older more better and easyer to look after

I WAS supporting the small group who were trying to get the Blaenau to Trawsfynydd line reopened as a heritage line. The track was still extant, albeit buried under weeds and rubbish, but Network Rail - instead of helping - buried them under so much red tape, it seems that they have given up. - - Then, just look around at all the heritage groups, and all the stock they have stuffed down spurs, a lot out of sight - just rotting away.

To me the most exciting one is the LNWR George V, given there is only one functional LNWR loco remaining that is pushing 140 nearly. And if they actually get that Bloomer finished... That one is the prime example of a new build project seemingly going dead but all the effort would be a shame to see go to waste. Though not strictly 100% new builds (and me not being much of a diesel buff) I am also looking forward to the Class 28 and Class 23 finally being restored to working order and offering something new and unique on the diesel front.

A very well thought out video Chris. I have always believed new builds are the way forward if heritage steam is to continue. I also agree we need some new build coaches- how many derelict mk1 underframes are there that could have new bodies (an idea the builders intended back in the 1950s)? One last thing; has nobody thought of making a new build Wisbech J70 tram?

New GTI? With a Naked Gun reference in the title? Excellent. 😁

I'm honestly astounded at the number of new build projects going, let alone seeing completion.

Personally I'd love to see an new build D16/3, would be perfect for heritage use & shorter mainline tours. Who knows, if I win the Euromillions tonight... Either way I think new builds are going to be an important part of the movement going forward, especially since the newest standards are over 60 years old now. New builds as well have potential for use with different fuel types to be buit into the design, important thing to consider since unfortunately coal is firmly on the way out...

Mainline steam in the UK faces a bleak future - the national network has a "Can't do" attitude to anything non-standard. As for new-builds - the Standard 3 tank is the most sustainable - big enough to be useful, without burning huge amounts of coal.

Cheers Chris, Thanks for another fantastic and informative episode. Much appreciated.

Just wondering whether anyone else would like to see a new build South Australian Railways 600 Class pacific? Absolute speed demons of the Broad Gauge between Tailem Bend and Bordertowm!

Always a bit of a slap in the face to see how much stuff we have "saved" that is sitting rotting, not even common items like genuine one of a kind last loco from their maker stuff, and we keep buying more and now building more. We haven't effectively looked after or ensured the future of the important stuff we have let alone the rest of the junk we are hoarding as preservationists while opening new lines still having barely got the foot traffic to support the ones we have now. Ffestiniog man talking about that magic of the unfamiliar and it's power to bring people into the fold... That's kinda lost if preserved railways become so ubiquitous they lose any thrill or oddity in existing and they are all stocked up with the same few classes of BR diesels in various states of disrepair waiting for their unlikely chance at ever running again. Need to clean house and consolidate a bit or we risk becoming utterly mundane and irrelevant in the publics eye

I wouldn’t mind some new cr coaches being built

There was a project that kick started where I live where they were to built a replica of a Victorian Railways V class 2-8-0 locomotive. They would do a replica of the class leader V499 and the project was based at Maldon Victoria. Unfortunately the project seized in 2018(?) and the cab and tender for the locomotive were stored at Maldon. I remember seeing them in storage during October 2023. Apart from cast number plates and a smokebox being built, I believe that was all that that constructed. There was also a projected that aimed at building a replica of an original Victorian Railways N class first series 2-8-2 numbered N441. (In preservation, 2 N classes made to 2 different variants are displayed) The project planned to take a K class 2-8-0 and reuse its frames and other components, while using a spare N boiler. It seemed to have done some more progress than the V499 but had gone a bit silent. But to be honest, I would kill for a brand new S class 4-6-2

One of the reasons I like the T1 project is because it is one of the most "what is that thing and what does it do, and how does it do it" steam locomotives that ever existed.

The A1 trust will finish whatever project they set their mind to I want to see the Patriot complete ( and maybe haul the night mail) and for a new build design proposal a second Caledonian railway 812

Beechly head is actually starting to undergo running trials & might be in traffic for the Bluebells giants of steam no the same guys are overhauling the Radial Tank & Normandy (I work there)

I fully support 72010 Hengist being used as a substitute locomotive. I once said that if she was to run on the heritage circuit, she’d most likely be used whenever more established locomotives are unavailable for whatever reason.